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belcher and his girlfriend? i don't know.l i know is that it the statistics from single parenthood and children out of wedlock and what happens to kids in those circumstances, what happens to the fathers in those circumstances. it's not good. >> dana: an degreia, i'm a believer in the institution of marriage to solidify families and root you in a grounded, make it possibly tradition and hopefully be prosperous in the future. there is a lot, there are many babies born out of wedlock. all across america. and all races. in particular, in african-american families and growing in hispanic and white families as well. do you think it has anything do with how people end up committing crimes like this? and not able to deal with the success he earned? >> andrea: i think there is a family element to certain things. maybe the way he was raised or how he wasn't raised. maybe he wasn't taught right from wrong. i have a hard time buying this. this is a total argument. a but-for argument. but for the family he would haven't don
belcher and his girlfriend? i don't know.l i know is that it the statistics from single parenthood and children out of wedlock and what happens to kids in those circumstances, what happens to the fathers in those circumstances. it's not good. >> dana: an degreia, i'm a believer in the institution of marriage to solidify families and root you in a grounded, make it possibly tradition and hopefully be prosperous in the future. there is a lot, there are many babies born out of wedlock. all...
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the team announced it will start a foundation for belcher's 3-month-old daughter left behind. as for what happened on the field? the chiefs played the best game of the season, beating the carolina panthers, earning their second win of the year. david? >> coming together. john, thanks to you. >>> the developing story this evening. much of the northwest is getting battered this sunday by three fierce storms in a row with another on the way tonight. heavy rain flooding the streets of sacramento, crashing trees on to cars in san francisco and blowing a rig over on a bridge. cecilia vega reports live tonight. >> reporter: good evening. this is a storm that slammed the west coast from washington down to the san francisco bay. just take a look at this. the beautiful napa valley tonight has vineyards under water. it was a one, two, three punch. three storms in less than one week plowing down on the west coast, the latest today dropping up to an inch of rain an hour in some spots. in reno, nevada, wind gusts reported to hit 95 miles an hour. nearly 100,000 people without power. homes f
the team announced it will start a foundation for belcher's 3-month-old daughter left behind. as for what happened on the field? the chiefs played the best game of the season, beating the carolina panthers, earning their second win of the year. david? >> coming together. john, thanks to you. >>> the developing story this evening. much of the northwest is getting battered this sunday by three fierce storms in a row with another on the way tonight. heavy rain flooding the streets...
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lockdown after the suicide of jovan belcher. belcher drove to the practice facility and thanked chiefs coach and general manager before tyking his own life. >> they talked for a bit and that's what he shot himself. >> reporter: the suicide followed a domestic incident five miles from the stadium approximately belcher shot his girlfriend kassandra perkins multiple times, killing her. >> they've been arguing before the shooting occurred. >> reporter: belcher's mother called 911. she had recently moved into the house, possibly to help with her grandchild. belcher got his start here in west babylon new york. he led the team to their first undefeated season. going on to play college ball before landing in the pros. belcher spent all four years with the chiefs. playing in every game this year. but the team is 1-10 this season. stuck in an 8-game losing streak. kansas city's mayor wouldn't speculate on a motive, but acknowledged the pressures of the job. >> we're talking about kids that are 25, 26, 24 years old playing in circumstances
lockdown after the suicide of jovan belcher. belcher drove to the practice facility and thanked chiefs coach and general manager before tyking his own life. >> they talked for a bit and that's what he shot himself. >> reporter: the suicide followed a domestic incident five miles from the stadium approximately belcher shot his girlfriend kassandra perkins multiple times, killing her. >> they've been arguing before the shooting occurred. >> reporter: belcher's mother...
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belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher thanked the coaches, knelt down beside a car, made a sign of a cross and put a shot to his fare hoed ending his life -- fairhead ending his life. serve trying to make this about their issue. nbc and bob costas used the tragedy to promote gun control. remember this? >> in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and the possible connection to football will be analyzed. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkin
belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk...
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let me go back to javn belcher. >> police say belcher turned a gun on perkins in the home that they share with their 3-month-old daughter. the child was spared. the player then went to the stadium, thanked his coaches for believing in him and then shot himself as they watched in horror. >> cenk: were guns a factor in this shooting? of course, of course! of course they were. he shot her nine times. he shot himself as well. but not in the ultimate reality that the conservatives live in. they're reacting not at him but at bob costas. here is ted nugent. we thought bob costas was smarter than that. only fools blame tools instead of human failings. shame, bob. this guy talking about shame. remember ted nugent was the rocker who crapped in his pants to get out of vietnam. that embarrassment, that pitiful excuse and you talk about shame. you walked around in your own waste for a week, you coward. shame. then we weapon "g" to matt yoder whoyo--then we go to matt yoder so that's the place where people might pay attention to it. so don't ever talk about it, a when people are paying attention, and b
let me go back to javn belcher. >> police say belcher turned a gun on perkins in the home that they share with their 3-month-old daughter. the child was spared. the player then went to the stadium, thanked his coaches for believing in him and then shot himself as they watched in horror. >> cenk: were guns a factor in this shooting? of course, of course! of course they were. he shot her nine times. he shot himself as well. but not in the ultimate reality that the conservatives live...
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we begin with very sad news from the nfl kansas city chiefs linebacker jevan belcher fatally murdered his girlfriend this morning then drove to arrowhead stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager. nbc news reporter brian moore has the details. >> reporter: after fatally shooting his girlfriend, kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher chose to end his own life at the stadium where his football dreams came true. >> as officers pulled up and began to park, that's when they heard the gunshot. >> reporter: police say belcher shot himself at the team's training facility after expressing his gratitude to his coach and general manager. >> the coaches said when he pulled up, he was -- they were never in danger. he never threatened them or anything. >> reporter: minutes earlier and five miles away, police say belcher gunned down his girlfriend, the mother of his 3-month-old baby. >> there are a lot of people who are hurting. there's a young baby without a parent or parents. >> reporter: now chiefs fans are asking a question that may never be answered. how could
we begin with very sad news from the nfl kansas city chiefs linebacker jevan belcher fatally murdered his girlfriend this morning then drove to arrowhead stadium and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager. nbc news reporter brian moore has the details. >> reporter: after fatally shooting his girlfriend, kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher chose to end his own life at the stadium where his football dreams came true. >> as officers pulled up and began to...
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our prayers and condolences go out to the family of jovan belcher. they are also grieving. >> reporter: earlier that morning belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins. the couple leaves behind a 3-month-old baby. >> i know that she really was excited and loved that baby. and she's just a beautiful person inside and out. >> reporter: fans tailgated, but the shootings hung heavily over the stadium. >> it's not the celebratory atmosphere that it usually is. >> first instincts i had was what are they going to do? are they going to play the game or postpone it? >> reporter: before kickoff, a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence and their families. belcher's name was not mentioned, but it didn't have to be. >> obviously, there was some deeper issues that none of us knew about, and it's just sad that it had to happen the way he did and he couldn't get help. >> reporter: in belcher's hometown of west babylon, new york, a vigil for the former high school star whose life and another were cut short by his own hands. >> our prayers a
our prayers and condolences go out to the family of jovan belcher. they are also grieving. >> reporter: earlier that morning belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins. the couple leaves behind a 3-month-old baby. >> i know that she really was excited and loved that baby. and she's just a beautiful person inside and out. >> reporter: fans tailgated, but the shootings hung heavily over the stadium. >> it's not the celebratory atmosphere that it usually is....
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casey wian, what are investigators learning about why apparently belcher did this? >> reporter: police are telling us at this hour there was some sort of an argument in the hours before the shooting of kasandra perfect kikin perkins, early saturday morning. neighbors said they never heard the couple fighting. they've been living together in the neighborhood for about a year, seemed to be getting along fine. both very happy after the birth of their daughter three months ago on september 11. i spoke with belcher's agent who also happens to be the agent for chiefs head coach romeo crennel and who witnessed the suicide of belcher, the agent said from everything he knew the couple were happy. he said belcher was a very high character young man and just absolutely out of character expressing total shock that he would be someone who would be involved in something like this, deb. >> you know, casey, some people think the game should have been canceled. what is the mood there? >> reporter: the mood i can best describe it as somber. we spoke to some fans who had mixed reactio
casey wian, what are investigators learning about why apparently belcher did this? >> reporter: police are telling us at this hour there was some sort of an argument in the hours before the shooting of kasandra perfect kikin perkins, early saturday morning. neighbors said they never heard the couple fighting. they've been living together in the neighborhood for about a year, seemed to be getting along fine. both very happy after the birth of their daughter three months ago on september...
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javon belcher kills kasandra perkins. by 8:10 he has a gun to his head in front of his head coach and time president. by 10:00 a.m. the nfl has already informed the carolina panthers that they need to be in kansas city the next day to play a game, and by 3:00 p.m. the nfl is putting out press releases saying, wait a minute the game is going o-but the it's the decision of the chiefs' captain and coach who just saw a player blow his brains out in front of him. maybe the captains voted to do it. i don't know for sure if that is, in fact, true. why should that be the decision of the chiefs players? imagine a similar circumstance if a pilot saw something similar with their spouse and then said, well, i'm ready to fly a plane a few hours later? no, someone would step in and say you need a time-out. i'm interviewed a lot of nfl players, and what they say is that the playing field is the most dangerous bh you're distracted. the idea the game went on when players wrestle with the fact a teammate say murderer and also a suicide sta
javon belcher kills kasandra perkins. by 8:10 he has a gun to his head in front of his head coach and time president. by 10:00 a.m. the nfl has already informed the carolina panthers that they need to be in kansas city the next day to play a game, and by 3:00 p.m. the nfl is putting out press releases saying, wait a minute the game is going o-but the it's the decision of the chiefs' captain and coach who just saw a player blow his brains out in front of him. maybe the captains voted to do it. i...
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and belcher's uniform hung untouched in his locker. members of the chiefs organization struggled for answers. >> it's tough. i miss him, you know. he's a great guy. a great teammate. >> he was an individual that did something that he snapped, and that, i don't understand. i probably never will. >> no history of concussions from belcher either. his teammates and 62,000 fans observed a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence. we're going to have highlights from the game in just a moment. >>> and new research is coming to light strengthening the link between long-term brain damage and playing football. espn and pbs' front line are working on a documentary. and they report that scientists have discovered 28 new cases of chronic brain disease in football players who have died, 15 of them former nfl players. one researcher says the sheer volume of cases will overwhelm anybody who wants to deny there's a problem. >>> a family is accusing sea world of shrugging off a dolphin attack on their 8-year-old daughter. jillian thomas was fe
and belcher's uniform hung untouched in his locker. members of the chiefs organization struggled for answers. >> it's tough. i miss him, you know. he's a great guy. a great teammate. >> he was an individual that did something that he snapped, and that, i don't understand. i probably never will. >> no history of concussions from belcher either. his teammates and 62,000 fans observed a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence. we're going to have highlights from the...
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belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke to the team. >> it's something really good today. really good. you overcame a lot. you stuck together as a team like we talked about. helped each other. all right? family and friends. you relied on those people. all right? you relied on your faith to help get you through this and we got through it. and in a grand way because everybody made a contribution. everybody helped. okay in that's what a team is about. that's what a team is about. >> police say belcher used a gun to kill his partner and himself and halftime segment on sunday night football bob costas made a case for gun control. sports reporter joe ca
belcher's agent says he like everyone else is stunned that belcher turned violent. >> the how and the why is the craziness of this. there's nothing in my relationship with him that would indicate any troubling past, anything that troubled him that would have caused him to commit such a heinous act as this and we just -- we'll never know, unfortunately. and i think that's the great debate of this. >> chiefs won the game against carolina and later in the locker room head coach spoke...
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one day after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend then killed himself, his team was back on the field for a game. the chief beat the carolina panthers 27-2 -- but as manual bojorquez reports the team and fans are still struggling for answers. >> reporter: amid the typical game day festivities at arrowhead stadium, reminders of a team tragedy. the chiefs coach romeo crennel greeted fans just one day after watching linebacker jovan belcher take his life. >> it's tough when circumstance happen, you can't undo them. and so you have to rely on each other, rely on your family, your friends and rely on your faith. >> reporter: authorities say belcher shot and killed kasandra perkins his girlfriend and mother of his three month old daughter yesterday morning at home. he then drove to the team's practice facility where he shot himself in front of crennel and general manager scott pioli. >> after talking with the captains, they also felt like it was best that we play, if for no other reason it takes our mind off our missery for a few hours. >> reporter: there was
one day after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend then killed himself, his team was back on the field for a game. the chief beat the carolina panthers 27-2 -- but as manual bojorquez reports the team and fans are still struggling for answers. >> reporter: amid the typical game day festivities at arrowhead stadium, reminders of a team tragedy. the chiefs coach romeo crennel greeted fans just one day after watching linebacker jovan belcher take his life....
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. >>> we'll start with kansas city where linebacker jovan belcher. he killed his girlfriend on saturday. and then killed himself in front of his coach. caught in the middle here the most innocent conceivable victim, the couple's 3-month-old girl. john? >> reporter: dan, good morning. we're right here on the field. this morning, we're learning more about what may have happened in the hours leading up to this tragedy. it all started 1:00 saturday morning when belcher's girlfriend got home late from a concert that she attended with friends. tragically it ended seven hours later. he then drove to the chiefs stadium where he then took his own life. this morning, investigators are trying to figure out why linebacker jovan belcher killed his 22-year-old girlfriend and then took his own life. >> we heard that they had been arguing in the past. >> reporter: police say saturday morning he shot and killed kasandra perkins the mother of his daughter at their home. police say belcher's own mother was in the house, saw the murder and called 911. he then jumped in
. >>> we'll start with kansas city where linebacker jovan belcher. he killed his girlfriend on saturday. and then killed himself in front of his coach. caught in the middle here the most innocent conceivable victim, the couple's 3-month-old girl. john? >> reporter: dan, good morning. we're right here on the field. this morning, we're learning more about what may have happened in the hours leading up to this tragedy. it all started 1:00 saturday morning when belcher's girlfriend...
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cbs news spoke with belcher's mother. she had no comment but said quote i have grieving to do. manuel bojorquez cbs news, kansas city, missouri. >> this morning the weather is clearing in the pacific northwest. that's good news after three successive storms drenched the region. the third hit yesterday knocking out power to tens of thousands in northern california but the weather system was fast-moving. and the damage less than expected. >> reporter: high winds uprooted trees in citrus heights, california. and blew over a truck in san francisco. wind and rain pound the northern part of the state for the third time in less than a week. across the region some streets looked more like rivers. and thousands woke up without electricity after power lines snapped. in tahoe the rain turned to snow sunday morning. the national weather service said that kept the truckee river from flooding into homes. >> you live on a river, bad things can happen. i was being alert. >> reporter: but 2 1/2 hours south along the napa river people are still keeping a close eye on water levels. >> you never k
cbs news spoke with belcher's mother. she had no comment but said quote i have grieving to do. manuel bojorquez cbs news, kansas city, missouri. >> this morning the weather is clearing in the pacific northwest. that's good news after three successive storms drenched the region. the third hit yesterday knocking out power to tens of thousands in northern california but the weather system was fast-moving. and the damage less than expected. >> reporter: high winds uprooted trees in...
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there were knives and he got away with it. >> belcher was a rich football player. if you ban handguns with anybody, if he wants to kill somebody with a gun he will get one. >> that's a good point. bill, what is costas' solution for this? if this football player didn't have a gun they would be alive. what is he suggesting? what kind of ban would you do to prevent -- is it no wealthy aggressive football players can have guns? he is calling for a total gun ban. >> no aggressive football players. only the kickers. those are the only ones allowed to have them. >> that's true. they drink a lot i think. >> i like costas, but this was neither the time nor the place. they have to understand something, political statements are not for them. they are for the fans. the fans are the only ones eloquent enough to say stuff. the fan with the sign that says "kill all refs" and the fan with the cape and nothing but a cape holding up the" january 3:-- "john 3:16" and they can make comments because they paid a lot of money to be there. >> someone compared the nra to the kkk. >> come o
there were knives and he got away with it. >> belcher was a rich football player. if you ban handguns with anybody, if he wants to kill somebody with a gun he will get one. >> that's a good point. bill, what is costas' solution for this? if this football player didn't have a gun they would be alive. what is he suggesting? what kind of ban would you do to prevent -- is it no wealthy aggressive football players can have guns? he is calling for a total gun ban. >> no aggressive...
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. >> reporter: relatives of kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher speaking out today trying to make sense of this tragedy. >> we are overwhelmed with both sadness and confusion. >> reporter: belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins, saturday. tonight her family releasing this statement saying "please keep us in your hearts and prayers, as well as the belcher family, for two lives were lost." and here inside the chiefs' practice facility, you can see his locker is still filled with all of his gear. the team says they don't know when or if his locker will be cleared out this season. the incident reignited the gun control debate. sportscaster bob costas taking a stand on sunday night football. >> if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: today chiefs head coach, romeo crennel, who witnessed belcher's suicide, added his voice. >> all i know is a player with a gun and i know it's not a good thing. >> reporter: but what drove belcher to kill? was it a head injury, so common in football, or was this another t
. >> reporter: relatives of kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher speaking out today trying to make sense of this tragedy. >> we are overwhelmed with both sadness and confusion. >> reporter: belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins, saturday. tonight her family releasing this statement saying "please keep us in your hearts and prayers, as well as the belcher family, for two lives were lost." and here inside the chiefs' practice facility, you can...
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police have identified belcher's girlfriend as kasandra perkins. george howell has the details. >> the kansas city chiefs are morning a fellow teammate. 25 year-old linebacker be belcher.. >> when the officers arrived they had a witnessed a black man that had held a gun up to its head. they heard gunshots and it appeared that he took his own life. >> just a few moments before the suicide he shot his girlfriend at her home. she died a short while later at an area hospital. >> recently we heard that they had been arguing. >> the team had released a statement belcher and his girlfriend kasandra perkins were living in their kansas city home with their three-month-old baby girl and belcher's mother. taken care of by family members. police are looking for a possible motive in the shootings. in response to this tragic event the oakland raiders released the following statement this morning... the oakland raiders are empathizing with the chiefs organization. our hearts are wounded by such an unimaginable tragedy in our nfl family. we will continue to pray f
police have identified belcher's girlfriend as kasandra perkins. george howell has the details. >> the kansas city chiefs are morning a fellow teammate. 25 year-old linebacker be belcher.. >> when the officers arrived they had a witnessed a black man that had held a gun up to its head. they heard gunshots and it appeared that he took his own life. >> just a few moments before the suicide he shot his girlfriend at her home. she died a short while later at an area hospital....
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in the momenns aftee chiefs linebacker jovan belcher... murdered his girlfriend ... then took his own life. life. she's still breathing but please hurry. i don't knowwhow pother who called for help after police say her son shot and killed kasandra perkins inside theirrkansas city home satuuday.in the recordiig, belcher's motter can be eard beggiig her son's dyinn girlfriend to stay alive. -911 operator "okay. so she's been shot?"-cheryl shepherd "yes."-911 operaaor "okay. right now is she awake?" stay with me. the mbulance is hear me? kasandra! hey! stay with me." me." after the shooting, belcher drove to arrowhead stadiimm and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager. his mother is noo taking care of the couple's 3-month--ld daughter. 3 president obama hosted a roundtable with business leaders today..... pitchingghis plan to avoid the fiscal cliff ttrough higher ta. taxes. negotiations between the white stalled. president obama says he will not sign a bill "without" a taxxincrease on incomes over two hundred fifty thousand dollars or more. offer b
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police are still trying to figure out what caused belcher to snap. he and his girlfriend were reportedly arguing after she returned late from a concert. >> it was an individual that did something that he snapped. and -- and that i don't understand. and i probably never will. >> reporter: it's the latest in a string of player suicides. earlier this year, former falcons safety, ray easterling took his life with a gun, so did o.j. murdock. in may, junior seau died after shooting himself in the chest. the family is having his brain studied. they want to know if the suicide was associated to a history of concussion-related injuries. but the chiefs' management says belcher had no history of head injuries. >> he is a player that is not on the concussion list. >> reporter: belcher's jersey hanging in his locker, his teammates say he will not be forgotten. the team announced it will start a foundation for the 3-month-old daughter left behind. as for what happened on the field, the chiefs played their best game of the season. beating the carolina panthers, ear
police are still trying to figure out what caused belcher to snap. he and his girlfriend were reportedly arguing after she returned late from a concert. >> it was an individual that did something that he snapped. and -- and that i don't understand. and i probably never will. >> reporter: it's the latest in a string of player suicides. earlier this year, former falcons safety, ray easterling took his life with a gun, so did o.j. murdock. in may, junior seau died after shooting...
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we don't know much about belcher's mental statement or if there was brain injury involved. should the nfl discourage players from owning firearms? >> this is such a sad day and sad story. and i applaud costas. i don't think enough voices can be raised against this gun ownership. but the problem you have is number one, they shouldn't have played the game. that shows you that the priorities are off from day one. they should not have played that game. once again, the money wins out. obviously, i think you have to discourage people from carrying guns. and particularly in the national football league, with everything that's going on about the clear connection now between mental health and brain damage and erratic behavior exacerbated and probably one of the most violent games on earth, romeo crennel that belcher was a leader and one of the first guys in drills. we didn't see this coming. and that's the problem. number one, they are not trained to see it coming. the gun lobby is just so overwhelming. i think that if athletes, for example, who if they are looking for a civil right
we don't know much about belcher's mental statement or if there was brain injury involved. should the nfl discourage players from owning firearms? >> this is such a sad day and sad story. and i applaud costas. i don't think enough voices can be raised against this gun ownership. but the problem you have is number one, they shouldn't have played the game. that shows you that the priorities are off from day one. they should not have played that game. once again, the money wins out....
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we have confirmed, now, that jovan belcher use the one gun to kill his girlfriend and another gun to kill himself. as you said earlier we have finally confirmed that he did, in fact, shoot kasandra perkins nine times before going to the stadium and shooting himself. >>shepard: thank yous -- thank you, trace. and agencies are reporting that the head coach of the badgers in wisconsin has been stolen away by the university of arkansas is going to arkansas to fill that series of weird vacancies they were dealing with in arkansas, leaving wisconsin badgers and going to arkansas. >> identity thieves could be trying to get their hands on your tabs return, a sharp increase in the number of scanners filing fraudulent returns. science and technology editor is with us now. it looks like they have stolen tens of thousands of people's refunds. >>guest: potentially billions. part of the problem, is identifying that there is a problem. the i.r.s. says they do not know the extent of the problem and it is hard if them to track and identify that something like this is happening. >>shepard: explain wha
we have confirmed, now, that jovan belcher use the one gun to kill his girlfriend and another gun to kill himself. as you said earlier we have finally confirmed that he did, in fact, shoot kasandra perkins nine times before going to the stadium and shooting himself. >>shepard: thank yous -- thank you, trace. and agencies are reporting that the head coach of the badgers in wisconsin has been stolen away by the university of arkansas is going to arkansas to fill that series of weird...
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belcher killed himself in a murder/suicide last week. he killed his girlfriend perkins at their home saturday morning and then shot himself in front of chiefs' coaches and management at the stadium. belcher and perkins leave behind a 3-month-old daughter. >>> the aurora, colorado movie theater where the gunman opened fire earlier this year getting ready to reopen. the city's mayor says it will open to the public on january 18th. before the reopening family members of shooting victims will be allowed inside that movie theater. the movie theater plans to run free movies to the public for the first couple of days. it has been undergoing remodeling and a revamping for the last two months. james holmes is accused of killing 12 people and hurting 58 others in that theater shooting that happened earlier this year. >>> beginning today people in washington state can legally smoke pot. adults will be allowed to have up to an ounce of marijuana. just like drinking you can't smoke pot in public places. earlier this morning people in washington state
belcher killed himself in a murder/suicide last week. he killed his girlfriend perkins at their home saturday morning and then shot himself in front of chiefs' coaches and management at the stadium. belcher and perkins leave behind a 3-month-old daughter. >>> the aurora, colorado movie theater where the gunman opened fire earlier this year getting ready to reopen. the city's mayor says it will open to the public on january 18th. before the reopening family members of shooting victims...
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police say belcher's own mother was in the house, saw the murder and called 911. he then jumped in his car and drove to arrowhead stadium to the team's practice facility. with a gun held to his head in the parking lot, authorities say, he began talking to coaches. >> when he pulled up -- he was was -- they were never in danger. he never threatened them. they talked for a little bit. >> reporter: suddenly he walked away, taking his own life as the chiefs head coach and the general manager witnessed in horror. the kansas city chiefs released a statement saying, quote, the entire chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy, thoughts and prayers for the family and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy. >> jovan belcher had an opportunity! >> reporter: at just 25 years old, belcher seemed like he had the world in his powerful hands. as a starting linebacker he reportedly earned millions in the nfl, living the good life. driving a bentley. seen here, being towed away after the crime. >> he always seemed lik
police say belcher's own mother was in the house, saw the murder and called 911. he then jumped in his car and drove to arrowhead stadium to the team's practice facility. with a gun held to his head in the parking lot, authorities say, he began talking to coaches. >> when he pulled up -- he was was -- they were never in danger. he never threatened them. they talked for a little bit. >> reporter: suddenly he walked away, taking his own life as the chiefs head coach and the general...
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if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the police have released what kind of hand gun he owned. do you know what kind he owned? why are you calling it a high powered hand gun? >> wl, i'm assuming most hand guns are high powered, right? >> so you call
if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher...
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vaughn belcher here's what to say. our current done culture with lock wrote ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead handguns do not enhance our safety they exacerbate our flaws attempt to escalate arguments and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it in the coming days javan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed who knows but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe if javan belcher didn't possess a gun he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. and here's what caused this didn't say he didn't say the government should take away people's guns he didn't say we should repeal the second amendment and he didn't call for limits on gun ownership still the conservative media and the blogosphere load up with fiery outrage towards cost to us and fox news is still talking about it today so if we
vaughn belcher here's what to say. our current done culture with lock wrote ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead handguns do not enhance our safety they exacerbate our flaws attempt to escalate arguments and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it in the coming days javan belcher's actions and their possible...
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- old line backer, jovan belcher. he drove to the practice facility and thanked the chief, coach and general manager before taking his own life. >> he never threatened them or anything. they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> reporter: the suicide followed a domestic incident 5 miles from the stadium. he shot his girlfriend, 22-year- old kasandra perkins multiple times killing her. >> they're been arguing before the shooting occurred this morning. >> reporter: belcher's mother called 911. she had moved into the house to help with grandchild. he got his start here on this field in new york. as a senior he led the team to the first undefeated season eventually going onto play college ball in maine before landing in the pros. he spent all four of his nfl seasons with the chiefs moving into the starting line up and playing every game this r year. the team is 1 and 10 this year. the mayor wouldn't speculate on a motive for the shootings but acknowledged the pressure of the job. >> we're talking abo
- old line backer, jovan belcher. he drove to the practice facility and thanked the chief, coach and general manager before taking his own life. >> he never threatened them or anything. they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> reporter: the suicide followed a domestic incident 5 miles from the stadium. he shot his girlfriend, 22-year- old kasandra perkins multiple times killing her. >> they're been arguing before the shooting occurred this morning....
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he never threatened them or anything. >> reporter: minutes earlier and five miles away belcher gunned down his girlfriend, the mother of his 3-month-old baby. >> there are a lot of people who are hurting. there's a young baby without a parent, or parents. >> reporter: now chiefs nans are asking questions that may never be answered. how can such a seemingly blessed life end so terribly. >> it's shocking. it's horrible. >> he had such an opportunity. i can't imagine what the families are going through right now there are team decided to go ahead as scheduled with sunday's home game against the carolina panthers, playing on despite a tragedy that hits so close to home. brian mooar, nbc news. >> the oakland raiders released this statement. quote, they are empathizing with the chiefs organization. our heart are wounded by such an unmanage jabl tragedy in our nfl family. we will continue to pray for everyone involved. the raiders and chief, of course, have been division rivals dating back to the 1960s. >>> and still to come at 5:00, the giants might already be moving on without brian wilson
he never threatened them or anything. >> reporter: minutes earlier and five miles away belcher gunned down his girlfriend, the mother of his 3-month-old baby. >> there are a lot of people who are hurting. there's a young baby without a parent, or parents. >> reporter: now chiefs nans are asking questions that may never be answered. how can such a seemingly blessed life end so terribly. >> it's shocking. it's horrible. >> he had such an opportunity. i can't imagine...
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we also confirm that belcher owned a number of give guns. he used one to kill his girlfriend and another one to kill himself. investigators say alcohol may have been a factor in this. but when police came in contact with javon belcher at 2:30 in the morning in his bentley they said at that time he was fine to drive. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher live tonight, thanks. cops here in new york say they have caught a man who is accused of pushing somebody right in front of a subway train. they found him just a block away from where the attack happened. it all went down yesterday right in times square just around the corner from our building here. a bystander recorded a video of an argument between two men on that platform. >> leaf me [bleep] alone. take your [bleep], [bleep], stand in line wait for the train. >> the man on the right is the suspect. all sorts of different stories about why they were arguing. one witness said the suspect was deranged. the victim was trying to calm him down. according to the "new york post" which our parent compa
we also confirm that belcher owned a number of give guns. he used one to kill his girlfriend and another one to kill himself. investigators say alcohol may have been a factor in this. but when police came in contact with javon belcher at 2:30 in the morning in his bentley they said at that time he was fine to drive. shep? >> shepard: trace gallagher live tonight, thanks. cops here in new york say they have caught a man who is accused of pushing somebody right in front of a subway train....
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saturday was not the person who jovan belcher was. he was incredibly passionate, loving individual. he enjoyed everything he did. i'll always remember him with a smile on his face. he had a huge smile, great smile, infectious smile. excuse me. that's the picture that i have of him. he cared. he loved, had such a big heart. loved so many people. and the feeling was mutual. he was loved by so many. it's an incredible tragedy and very difficult to come to grips with. >> it's difficult for many people to come to grips with. because everybody says oh, there was no history of domestic violence in his past. but there are reports out there that he did have one experience while he was at maine. do you know about that? where he became so angry, he put his fist through a wall or glass window? >> he -- there was an incident with -- where he did put his fist through a window. to me it was our freshman year. he was 18 or 19 years old. i always credited that to an immature decision, a decision that i actually have another friend who has done the sam
saturday was not the person who jovan belcher was. he was incredibly passionate, loving individual. he enjoyed everything he did. i'll always remember him with a smile on his face. he had a huge smile, great smile, infectious smile. excuse me. that's the picture that i have of him. he cared. he loved, had such a big heart. loved so many people. and the feeling was mutual. he was loved by so many. it's an incredible tragedy and very difficult to come to grips with. >> it's difficult for...
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we've posted the 911 calls that belcher's mom made begging belcher to stay alive. >>> today a fairfax county judge made it clear just because you post an announcement review doesn't mean you can say anything you want. as bruce leshan tells us a woman may have to pay hundreds of thousands in damages for the nasty review she posted on-line about a local contractor. >> to finally be winning on principles and knowing that good people do prevail, it's very, very happy. >> reporter: contractor christopher dietz crowing after winning a preliminary injunction against a former customer would wrote a series of scaight on-line reviews. >> what she put up there were pure lies and stated as fact, and so that damage can never be undone but we can certainly stop any future damage. >> reporter: jane perez said she never imagined her reviews on yelp and angie's lis would it land her in court facing potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages for defamation. she had hired dietz to install a toilet, refinish floors and fix some light swipes. but when things went south she wrote that dietz ha
we've posted the 911 calls that belcher's mom made begging belcher to stay alive. >>> today a fairfax county judge made it clear just because you post an announcement review doesn't mean you can say anything you want. as bruce leshan tells us a woman may have to pay hundreds of thousands in damages for the nasty review she posted on-line about a local contractor. >> to finally be winning on principles and knowing that good people do prevail, it's very, very happy. >>...
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first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have stopped this tragedy? >> only one kind of gun regulation would have stopped this and that would be to gut the second amendment and i don't think igor can reject that. 20,000 laws around the country regulate guns at the state, federal and local level. those laws sometimes are forced a and sometimes not. this young man there was no reason legally to deny him the ownership of a firearm. so the suggestion by bob costas who ought to be fired for the comments, his outrageous suggestion that the civil rights of americans all 300 million of us should be taken away and we should be denied the right to own a g
first up tragedy in the nfl after kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have...
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jovan belcher killed her. >> bob: i see. right. >> kimberly: greg? >> greg: if it was a deadly flood it would be the same saying we need to been a water. he is a hypocritical buffoon. he spends his life wondering in and out of the new york buildings flanked by people who are armed. he doesn't have to have a gun because he is protected by people with guns. he is a sanctimonious ghoul. when something comes up, he has to come up. pay attention to me. this is about scoring points with other people in media. same with whitlock, who is a chucklehead. this guy in the knickss when he was talking about jeremy lin played off a stereotypical deficiency i'm not even going to get in to. who refers to the nra as kkk. he is a bigot. apologize for that. >> bob: what is a ghoul? >> greg: somebody uses tragedy to build himself up. he is a hypocrite. because he doesn't worry about being armed. people are armed for him. we live in a building right now, we work atuilding right now, where everybody has a gun outside. we're lucky. the rest of the public doesn't. >> bob: er
jovan belcher killed her. >> bob: i see. right. >> kimberly: greg? >> greg: if it was a deadly flood it would be the same saying we need to been a water. he is a hypocritical buffoon. he spends his life wondering in and out of the new york buildings flanked by people who are armed. he doesn't have to have a gun because he is protected by people with guns. he is a sanctimonious ghoul. when something comes up, he has to come up. pay attention to me. this is about scoring points...
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belcher is responsible but the pundit class. the pundit class, dr. archer started immediately to make excuses. it's the nfl, it was the guns, rather than saying this is an individual who was disturbed and, you know, that's what the crux of the matter is. >> the crux of the matter is that the number one predict everywhere of violence, the number one predictor of suicide is alcohol and drug abuse. if we want to get to a reason why this happened that has to be at the top of the list. clearly this is a guy who was taken painkillers. nfl players are four times more likely than the general population to take narcotic painkillers and he was drinking on those painkillers. if you want a reason that's your -- >> wait, doctor ablow, so you say that the analysis should have been he did it and he is responsible. you don't disagree with that? >> don't disagree at all. one of the drivers of his action was the drinking and the drug taking? >> correct. >> bill: all right. that seems to be logical dr. ablow to make that kind of analysis. always with the headline he di
belcher is responsible but the pundit class. the pundit class, dr. archer started immediately to make excuses. it's the nfl, it was the guns, rather than saying this is an individual who was disturbed and, you know, that's what the crux of the matter is. >> the crux of the matter is that the number one predict everywhere of violence, the number one predictor of suicide is alcohol and drug abuse. if we want to get to a reason why this happened that has to be at the top of the list. clearly...
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guy, number 59, jovan belcher of the kansas city chiefs. he is dead tonight, suicide. there's something else. police believe he killed his girlfriend about 20 minutes earlier. jovan belcher was a four-year starting linebacker, 25 years old. his girlfriend was 22. they had an infant daughter. police say belcher shot himself in the head in front of his coach and general manager in the parking lot of the chiefs' training facility. >>> alabama will play notre dame for college football's national championship. the crimson tide beat georgia tonight 32-28 to win the southeastern conference
guy, number 59, jovan belcher of the kansas city chiefs. he is dead tonight, suicide. there's something else. police believe he killed his girlfriend about 20 minutes earlier. jovan belcher was a four-year starting linebacker, 25 years old. his girlfriend was 22. they had an infant daughter. police say belcher shot himself in the head in front of his coach and general manager in the parking lot of the chiefs' training facility. >>> alabama will play notre dame for college football's...
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in the coming days jovan belcher's actions will be an lids. but i believe in jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: a lot of people criticizing costas for using a sporting event to is suppose a political view point. some people agree with costas, others asked what kel were weapon did ovmen -- did o.j. us. some saying onl only fools blame tools. ted nugent says you tune in for a football game and you get bob could toss spewing sanctimonious dreck. megyn: the statistics are stunning. 5 million women are abused by a domestic partner every year. 85% of them are women. the domestic violence hotline receives 22,000 calls every month. gun violence is not all that common. the debate over those costas remarks, whether he was out of line or he was on the mark in just a couple minutes right here. as lawmakers face off over the nation's fiscal crisis. to claim the president's insistence on raising taxes on the wealthy is not about money or tackling our debt or deif i side --our debt or deficit i
in the coming days jovan belcher's actions will be an lids. but i believe in jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: a lot of people criticizing costas for using a sporting event to is suppose a political view point. some people agree with costas, others asked what kel were weapon did ovmen -- did o.j. us. some saying onl only fools blame tools. ted nugent says you tune in for a football game and you get bob could toss spewing...
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belcher, a friend claimed belcher was abusing alcohol and prescription meds at the time this happened. here's a guy who graduated a degree in child development and family relatis from the university of maine. you heard the quote from his coach saying he was a great guy. we were all proud of him. wh is the nfl, is the nfl doing something wrong here? are they encourage couraginging behavior? >> game is getting faster and only more violent. ricky can speak with this. when a player goes down with concussion there is no independent doctor comes on the field like a bing match, this player can't go. he is out of this one. a doctor pid by the team. so it is in the team's best interest when michael vic goes down with injury he is good to go. he doesn'tant to tell the coach, franchise player. vick wants to play and make his money and behe quarterback of the eagles. the coach wants him to pla in doctor's case who is the one to say i don't think this is the best decision? he has a incentive as well. gerri: peter was mentioning how the big hits are not happening and not as bad as it used be and ye
belcher, a friend claimed belcher was abusing alcohol and prescription meds at the time this happened. here's a guy who graduated a degree in child development and family relatis from the university of maine. you heard the quote from his coach saying he was a great guy. we were all proud of him. wh is the nfl, is the nfl doing something wrong here? are they encourage couraginging behavior? >> game is getting faster and only more violent. ricky can speak with this. when a player goes down...
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the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob costas spewing sang t sancts drek. >> where are we headed? bob costas deserves to be fired for these remarks. >> he's allowed to have his opinion. yes, he's allowed to go there. >> we want to ban guns because the gun kills the person, not the person pulling the trigger. >> you want to get a political lecture by the rantings on the left, i suggest that bob costas could have worked for msnbc. >> jason whitlock's right. if there's no gun here, nobody's dead. i don't know what the issue is to take issue with. >> i don't get the sense he was calling for specific legislation or saying here's what we should do. >> how come
the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob...
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. >> the kansas city chiefs released a statement following belcher's death. it reads in part, the entire chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy. thoughts and prayers for the family and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy. we'll continue to fully cooperate with with the authorities and work to ensure that the appropriate counseling resources are available. >>> the supreme court could decide this week whether to take up the controversial issue of same-sex marriage. the nine justices met behind closed doors on friday but took no action. the high court could act tomorrow when it's scheduled to release orders or the justices may choose to discuss the divisive issue when they meet for another scheduled conference on friday. >>> and then there were two. this weekend alabama rolled over the georgia bulldogs 32-28 to earn a spot against undefeated notre dame for the coveted bcs title. the crimson tide are looking to win back-to-back titles and their third title in four years, which would be an unpr
. >> the kansas city chiefs released a statement following belcher's death. it reads in part, the entire chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy. thoughts and prayers for the family and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy. we'll continue to fully cooperate with with the authorities and work to ensure that the appropriate counseling resources are available. >>> the supreme court could decide this week whether to...
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baby girl and belcher's mother. the child is now being taken care of by family members. police are looking for a possible motive in this case. the raiders released this statement in response... the oakland raiders are empathizing with the chiefs organization. our hearts are wounded by such an unimaginable tragedy in our nfl family. we will continue to pray for everyone involved. >> i am going to give away these high and headphones www.kron4.com nor cancellation is the latest technology high end .. there is also a cable with a microphone, and controlling music. noise cancellation technology.... . >> we are back at 8:25 >> welcome. you can see the heavy yellow is indicating heavier rainfall. still in the north where it was kidding hit hard. moving south and it was-and getting hit hard. coast should be gone by early or late afternoon. >> it has been a steady and the latest band is bringing heavy wind causing several accidents. we will keep you up to date. >> sports. the golden state warriors continued their solid start
baby girl and belcher's mother. the child is now being taken care of by family members. police are looking for a possible motive in this case. the raiders released this statement in response... the oakland raiders are empathizing with the chiefs organization. our hearts are wounded by such an unimaginable tragedy in our nfl family. we will continue to pray for everyone involved. >> i am going to give away these high and headphones www.kron4.com nor cancellation is the latest technology...
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no one is saying that belcher is not responsible. in fact, earlier in the day, inthat i was appalled by the way some of this had been covered initially by some of the sports networks where they made it seal like there were two victims. that kasandra perkins was victim one and javon butler was victim two. no. the person who committed suicide first committed a murder and he is responsible for that. however, the ready easy availability of guns, could he have strangled her or stabbed her? of course he could have. but the easy availability of guns makes this sort of thing far more likely to occur. if somebody points out that the country has a problem with nutrition and obesity, that doesn't mean they want to ban fast food. but they are you aware of some of the dangers and hoping to moderate people's behavior. if nothing else, even if some people disagree with me or misinterpret what i said. if it started a conversation on this, then i think that's a good thing. >> it is my honor that you joined us tonight with your first television interv
no one is saying that belcher is not responsible. in fact, earlier in the day, inthat i was appalled by the way some of this had been covered initially by some of the sports networks where they made it seal like there were two victims. that kasandra perkins was victim one and javon butler was victim two. no. the person who committed suicide first committed a murder and he is responsible for that. however, the ready easy availability of guns, could he have strangled her or stabbed her? of course...
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. >>> the nfl steps in for jovan belcher's 4 month old daughter. plus high resolution images from space. it uses techniques that allows the images such as city laws, aur rar ras, wildfires, and moonlight be seen by the naked eye. >>> stories making news across america on this thursday. in washington state, a 35-year-old relationship was officially legitimized a short time ago as the clock struck 12:00 out west. they became the first same sex couple to receive a marriage license in the evergreen state, a fitting honor for the couple who was featured in the ad campaign to legalize same-sex marriage. >>> newark new jersey mayor core rebooker is gearing up for his food stamp challenge. he will be on a steady diet of beans and vegetables and whatever else he can afford living on $35 of food stamps. he took on the challenge after getting into a debate with one of his twitter followers. >>> north of the border they suited up for the sled hockey. team u.s.a. earned enough wins for a spot in the semifinals. >>> sports, tipoff in the nba, bobcats, nicks. thr
. >>> the nfl steps in for jovan belcher's 4 month old daughter. plus high resolution images from space. it uses techniques that allows the images such as city laws, aur rar ras, wildfires, and moonlight be seen by the naked eye. >>> stories making news across america on this thursday. in washington state, a 35-year-old relationship was officially legitimized a short time ago as the clock struck 12:00 out west. they became the first same sex couple to receive a marriage...